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    Posted: Mar 13 2014 at 2:46pm

“It’s going to be very hard to hold the Senate — I think the Senate goes,” MSNBC's Chris Matthews said on Thursday morning's edition of 'Morning Joe'. “I think we heard from the Ghost of Christmas Future this week. They’re going to lose the Senate."

The Democrats' only hope, Matthews said, is to provide voters with a better understanding of what a Republican-controlled Senate would mean for them: "Tell the voters they're going after Social Security and Medicare" and "coming after abortion rights."

"You've got to get out there and put a very strong, bold picture on what the Republicans would like to do and say that's what they're going to do," Matthews said.

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Chris is now singing "the Thrill (up my leg) is gone"

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Obama done stoled everything from medicare and gave it to the non doer's on medicaid. But its the same old scare tactics from the left.
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Abortion rights aren't going anywhere

can we stop with this non-sense and talk about issues that really matter when it comes to this countries future?
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I do agree that abortion issues aren't going anywhere, but this country's future is made up of issues just like that.

That has been an issue thrown all the time.
 
I do agree that there is more important issue out there that should be addressed and the two parties refuse to address them. They all need replaced not starting with Boehner start with all impose term limits of eight years then they are done.
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Oh we you admit they are not doing what needs to be done but just want to hand them 8 more years?

You don't have to do that.  You can start voting them out NOW which means poeple like You and I need to start with Boehner.

I mean which is it....the sky is falling and we have to fix things or we have 8 more years to let things remain the same?
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When has anyone on the his board (or in America in general) looked at Chris Mathews as some type of political guru? His opinions on anything mean little to me and should mean little to you. 

That said, he's just repeating what a lot of people are saying, it will be hard for the Democrats to maintain control of the Senate. Not impossible, but it is unlikely. However, it won't really change the political landscape much. They won't have veto-proof (or filibuster proof except on nominations, which won't matter much because Obama will be nominating them).


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Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

Oh we you admit they are not doing what needs to be done but just want to hand them 8 more years?

You don't have to do that.  You can start voting them out NOW which means poeple like You and I need to start with Boehner.

I mean which is it....the sky is falling and we have to fix things or we have 8 more years to let things remain the same?
Once again the blame game when will it stop?
 
Start with Boehner. Why not Pelosi? Why not McCain?
 
You seem to blame Boehner for all the problems of the last eight years.
 
Think of this, During the Government shut down the Rep. told the President he could have his budget if he would extend the enrollment for everybody (like he did for large corporations) HE refused. But now he has extended the enrollment period until 31 March.
 
Of and YOU said it was the law and could not be change. (Don't even claim you didn't I am not going to tell you the thread you said it in).
 
So much for bringing bipartisanship more division is all.
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Originally posted by retiredmilitary retiredmilitary wrote:

Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

Oh we you admit they are not doing what needs to be done but just want to hand them 8 more years?

You don't have to do that.  You can start voting them out NOW which means poeple like You and I need to start with Boehner.

I mean which is it....the sky is falling and we have to fix things or we have 8 more years to let things remain the same?
Once again the blame game when will it stop?
 
Start with Boehner. Why not Pelosi? Why not McCain?
 
You seem to blame Boehner for all the problems of the last eight years.
 
Think of this, During the Government shut down the Rep. told the President he could have his budget if he would extend the enrollment for everybody (like he did for large corporations) HE refused. But now he has extended the enrollment period until 31 March.
 
Of and YOU said it was the law and could not be change. (Don't even claim you didn't I am not going to tell you the thread you said it in).
 
So much for bringing bipartisanship more division is all.


I think the point CM is trying to make (and it's one I've made for a very long time on here) is that you as an individual can only vote for 3 members of Congress: Your representative and your two senators. Therefore when people say "we need to vote members of Congress out," they really can only vote 3 of them out. However, incumbents continually win re-election at 85%+ levels. So basically, if you were serious about voting people out of office, you'd pretty much have to start with Boehner. 


What Obama did was a purely political move and a smart one from his perspective. He refused to negotiate with the Republicans (and please, don't tell me that that was the only issue that the Republicans had, let's not do any historical revisionism here) and made them look bad for shutting the government down. He treated the two things as separate and made the Republicans look bad. In the political world, it worked out pretty well. 

Whether or not it's good government... well I don't know, but this system has been around for awhile and people have played it just as well (and many of them much better) than Obama. 


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Yeah seriously, since when is Matthews more than a talking head? He's just a host for a show on a *news* channel, AKA an entertainer.

 
Good points retiredmilitary.
 
And bobpreston, while the graphic is pretty funny, I think you're missing the point. I have no issue reading conservative blogs or watching fox, I really don't. What I take issue with is my easily manipulated old grandparents and even my parents now, parroting the crap that is spewed from these sources as alleged news and fact - when they are opinions. And the same goes for what is said on the alleged "liberal" sources.
 
I usually browse foxnews when comedy central is out of reach Wink
 
 
As for predictions going forward - meh. It's all up in the air.
 
 
I think that unless the GOP stops caving to teaparty insanity, they're going to lose big time come elections time.  Focusing on abortion, obamacare, and "religious freedom" are not creating jobs or helping the economy.
 
I suppose the same could be said for the DNC, repealing DOMA, DADT, implementing obamacare, etc., don't really address the jobs and economical issues - but at least DOMA and DADT increased freedoms to more people.
 
 
I can't get my head around "smaller government" conservatives that want to regulate abortion, LGBT rights/discrimination etc. I guess it's smaller government, except for what we don't like?
 
 
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Originally posted by retiredmilitary retiredmilitary wrote:


Once again the blame game when will it stop?
 
Start with Boehner. Why not Pelosi? Why not McCain?
 
You seem to blame Boehner for all the problems of the last eight years.
 
Think of this, During the Government shut down the Rep. told the President he could have his budget if he would extend the enrollment for everybody (like he did for large corporations) HE refused. But now he has extended the enrollment period until 31 March.
 
Of and YOU said it was the law and could not be change. (Don't even claim you didn't I am not going to tell you the thread you said it in).
 
So much for bringing bipartisanship more division is all.


First let me thank Matt for proving to me what I said was not written in code and undecipherable.



As for you retiredmilitary let me break it down for you.

You live in Monroe Ohio.  Either that or you waste a lot of time on a local message board in a city which you do not live.  I am assuming you don't live in Cali or Arizona and are not registered to vote in such states.

So with that being said....John Boehner is the only member of the senate you can change unless you register to vote someplace else.  He is the only change you can make along with two more seats in the House.  That is IT. 

You can focus on things entirely out of your control or you can enact change with the power you have.  It's your choice to make but the reason I mention Boehner is pretty simple and logical. 

If you can quote me showing that I said Boehner is responsible for all of the  the problems over the last 8 years I will leave this website.  You can't because I never said it.  You made it up.

As far as me saying a law cannot be changed; that's just silly.  A law can be changed; it happens quite often in fact.  I'm sure this was another case of you reading something but not understanding it totally as usually happens.  I will reference the above situation an an example.


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Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

Originally posted by retiredmilitary retiredmilitary wrote:


Once again the blame game when will it stop?
 
Start with Boehner. Why not Pelosi? Why not McCain?
 
You seem to blame Boehner for all the problems of the last eight years.
 
Think of this, During the Government shut down the Rep. told the President he could have his budget if he would extend the enrollment for everybody (like he did for large corporations) HE refused. But now he has extended the enrollment period until 31 March.
 
Of and YOU said it was the law and could not be change. (Don't even claim you didn't I am not going to tell you the thread you said it in).
 
So much for bringing bipartisanship more division is all.


You live in Monroe Ohio.  Either that or you waste a lot of time on a local message board in a city which you do not live. 


DisapproveErmm ..... 
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Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

 
So with that being said....John Boehner is the only member of the senate you can change unless you register to vote someplace else.  He is the only change you can make along with two more seats in the House.  That is IT. 


WOW good thing you know what your talking about???? NOT
Hit dumb twice good job.
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cmsquare wrote

First let me thank Matt for proving to me what I said was not written in code and undecipherable.


So with that being said....John Boehner is the only member of the senate you can change unless you register to vote someplace else.  He is the only change you can make along with two more seats in the House.  That is IT. 

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I have been away and so am just seeing this...and laughing my butt off!!!
The Great,  the MOST knowledgeable among us, CM Square thinks that John Boehner is a member of the Senate and that as a citizen of Monroe, I can vote to return him to the Senate and then I can vote for TWO members of the House of Representatives!!!
 
REALLY!?!?
 
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haha, man, you guys sure like it when someone has a typo
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Originally posted by MElass MElass wrote:

cmsquare wrote

I have been away and so am just seeing this...and laughing my butt off!!!
The Great,  the MOST knowledgeable among us, CM Square thinks that John Boehner is a member of the Senate and that as a citizen of Monroe, I can vote to return him to the Senate and then I can vote for TWO members of the House of Representatives!!!
 
yeah seriously.

I made a typo.

Get over it. 

At least I don't think that from Monroe I can vote for Pelosi or McCain.  The only thing I am guilty of is typing to fast and not paying attention to flip flopping words. 

The bottom line is ....put three members into congress and Boehner is one.  You want to effect change and the status quo in Washington then you start with him or your talk is cheap. PERIOD. 
Either that or....
Good luck voting out Pelosi in Ohio you must know something we all don't.
















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CM here is your words from this exact thread.
 
Quote "Oh we you admit they are not doing what needs to be done but just want to hand them 8 more years?

You don't have to do that. You can start voting them out NOW which means people like you and I need to start with Boehner." End Quote
 
So you blamed Boehner in that quote.
 
I was making a point of the "blame game" you always use
 
I forgot you can't understand these things so sorry.
 
"The bottom line is ....put three members into congress and Boehner is one. You want to effect change and the status quo in Washington then you start with him or your talk is cheap. PERIOD."
 
More Boehner blame
 
Never said I could vote for them those are examples. Go flush your head so the crap can get cleaned out of your brain!!
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CM, I don't remember you being so forgiving of OTHER posters' typos. I can recall several scathing comments you have made re such typos.
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Originally posted by retiredmilitary retiredmilitary wrote:




CM here is your words from this exact thread.
 
Quote "Oh we you admit they are not doing what needs to be done but just want to hand them 8 more years?

You don't have to do that. You can start voting them out NOW which means people like you and I need to start with Boehner." End Quote
 
So you blamed Boehner in that quote.
 
I was making a point of the "blame game" you always use
 
I forgot you can't understand these things so sorry.
 
"The bottom line is ....put three members into congress and Boehner is one. You want to effect change and the status quo in Washington then you start with him or your talk is cheap. PERIOD."
 
More Boehner blame
 
Never said I could vote for them those are examples. Go flush your head so the crap can get cleaned out of your brain!!



Wow. You really are a piece of work. This will now be the third time this has been explained to you. I named Boehner cause he is one of three members of congress you can vote for. Either that or you dont live in Monroe. Which is it?

When you can vote for Nancy Pelossi in Ohio you let me know. Until then this will keep being a riddle to you I suppose.

Or you could keep giving examples of change which you have zero effect on. Probably more your speed that way you can just point and blame Pelossi or someone else when things dont go your way all while punching Boehners dance ticket another 4 years.

The political process in this country sure does elude you.
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Originally posted by MElass MElass wrote:

CM, I don't remember you being so forgiving of OTHER posters' typos. I can recall several scathing comments you have made re such typos.


I have said things about spelling mistakes in the past, mainly because you need to ignore red squiggly lines in order to post a misspelled word.

When I get red squiggly lines for flip flopping real words then you may have a point. Either way if you complain about the status quo in DC and continue to Elect Boehnwr you are full it. You doesnt mean you it's a general term here.

You want to change things then change em. But that won't happen cause it does not fit the agenda.
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