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    Posted: Dec 23 2012 at 11:32pm
We finished our Xmas shopping today, finally! Anyway, every single gift we purchased this year was Made in the USA! It was pretty cool, and I really think we got better products for around the same money. Has anyone else tried this? We're going to continue on with it, hope everyone else can too. Wink
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So you are really saying you did not buy much? lol
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And perhaps paid extra for American. Unhappy
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Ahh John, turn that frown upside down. We did price comparisons on every item, and believe it or not the domestic items were actually as cheap or cheaper.
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It's a nice idea and all....buy I am curious what you bought.

With certain things...a made in the USA item wouldn't be possible.

Merry Christmas


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Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

It's a nice idea and all....buy I am curious what y;ou bought.

With certain things...a made in the USA item wouldn't be possible.

Merry Christmas


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Ok, CM let's hear it...
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well lets just say I knew you didn't buy anyone any electronics or especially Apple products.


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nor am I judging you at all.  I do support buying american made things and would even pay MORE in some cases.

I'm just not sure it's possible in 2012 to go completely american made.


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Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

nor am I judging you at all.  I do support buying american made things and would even pay MORE in some cases.

I'm just not sure it's possible in 2012 to go completely american made.


 
Sad but how true!
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Originally posted by MFD50 MFD50 wrote:

Originally posted by cmsquare cmsquare wrote:

nor am I judging you at all.  I do support buying american made things and would even pay MORE in some cases.

I'm just not sure it's possible in 2012 to go completely american made.


 
Sad but how true!
 
Yes, but in the spirit of self preservation and sustenance of what, where, and how, it is imperative that we go the extra initiative to read the label, compare different merchants, and make a conscious decision to buy American when possible/practical. The effect of this effort, if practiced by most, would have the most amazing effect on our nation, at a transitional time, when we need it the most.
 
Jobs, trade imbalances, local, state, and federal taxes, ripple effect through the supply system, raw materials, and on and on with a premium. The job you save, could well be your own, though most don't associate cause and effect to a particular item, it is all interconnected in the end, and with consumer spending on foreign products (basically) driving 70% of the entire economy, imagine the positive if it stimulated the entire supply chain.SmileClap


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good job Max HC. At least you're trying which is more than the cynics can say...:)
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I buy the best product for me considering all relevant factors: price, quality, looks, etc. If everything is equal, I'll buy American. If not, I don't. I'm not going to buy an inferior product because it's American. Why reward bad manufacturers? That's anti-capitalist.

For example, I'll buy a Ford. Good price, good looks and right now they are making quality cars. Excellent. But I will not buy a Chrysler product. Good price, but terrible quality.
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Dannyboy, I appreciate your comments, but I'll have to say the "anti-capitalist" comment is a joke when taking in consideration that you would buy a Chinese product over an American product and labeling it inferior. If that is the case and you in fact do purchase a Chinese made product over an American made, then I would like to hear you explain if goods from China come from a capitalist system?
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he didn't say he would buy a chinese car.

perhaps a german one?


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China engages in capitalism, yes. They are fascist, but they do engage in some free market activities. GM sells cars there. They may even build some parts there.

Not that it matters. The point is, *I* am a capitalist, I live in a capitalist country and I think capitalism and consumer choice are the best way to move products to market and increase the standard of living for all people. Thus, I will buy the best product for my needs. My needs are a balance between quality and price, depending on what I'm shopping for. Sometimes an American product fills that need, sometimes not. But I'm not going to buy an inferior product just because it's made in the USA. It's not my fault if an American product (like Chrysler) fails to meet the needs of the consumer. It's Chrysler's fault.
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Originally posted by Dannyboy Dannyboy wrote:

China engages in capitalism, yes. They are fascist, but they do engage in some free market activities. GM sells cars there. They may even build some parts there.

Not that it matters. The point is, *I* am a capitalist, I live in a capitalist country and I think capitalism and consumer choice are the best way to move products to market and increase the standard of living for all people. Thus, I will buy the best product for my needs. My needs are a balance between quality and price, depending on what I'm shopping for. Sometimes an American product fills that need, sometimes not. But I'm not going to buy an inferior product just because it's made in the USA. It's not my fault if an American product (like Chrysler) fails to meet the needs of the consumer. It's Chrysler's fault.
Agreed. I'm not sure how it works for the Chinese, I guess we could call it Communistic Capitalism.
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Is treatment of the worker who is making your products something that factors into your purchase? Are there hidden costs associated with companies who pollute or practice unsafe policies for their workers that don't show up on the price tag? 
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Originally posted by MoneyBags MoneyBags wrote:

Is treatment of the worker who is making your products something that factors into your purchase? Are there hidden costs associated with companies who pollute or practice unsafe policies for their workers that don't show up on the price tag? 
 
Absolutely there is. China fails to recognize the basic human rights and uses young labor in some of the most hostile jobs. Since they have such a large labor force they do not care if a few end up maimed or worse dead as long as the jobs get done. They continually dump their products into other countries at a much lower price and to me that is the same as sabatoge to try and bankrupt the current American companies that still make their product here.
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You can then make the argument that when you choose to buy American you are factoring in other unseen costs (aside from the price vs value) and are not "anti capitalist" for doing so. 
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Apple products are built under working conditions that we would likely consider slavery in this country, yet I still own an iPod Touch and an iPad. So I guess it's not much of a factor for me. I haven't researched it, but other electronics companies probably do the same things that Apple does.
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I currently do not own any apple products but my children do and I am sure some of my electronics including my desk top were made in similar conditions. It is a shame that our own greed has forced these conditions upon the ones that cannot make choices like we can. I have even heard some so called 'Christian' companies that sell products from overseas saying if we don't buy, they don't eat. And that makes me angry that they would 'push' their products in that manner.
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The other night we were with family and exchanging gifts. It's a large family, so you can imagine the combo of adults and kids that were tearing through the wrapping to get to the gifts! But as I sat and watched, I began to look at what everyone recieved and I was amazed. I bet 90% of everything was made in China. Anyone can throw all the "free market capitalism" s*** around as much as they want to, but it's pretty damn sad what has happened here. We could totally drive our economic engine a little better if we all just simply paid attention!
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Consumers arent willing to pay the cost of goods if they were made here.

Simple truth
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I am almost willing to bet that the wrapping paper was most likely made in China also. We are our own worse enemy.
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