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    Posted: Nov 30 2016 at 9:25am
Gov Abbott recommends open carry on campus. What do you think? Should students over 21 be allowed to open carry on college campus like in Texas?

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What are the drawbacks?  Is there anything that has been substantiated as an actual reason not to allow it?  Not speculation but actual facts.  We could play "what if" all day on both sides.
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College students + college drinking + guns = a REALLY GOOD idea. NOT!!!!
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I say yes. I understand your thinking, MElass, but there is drinking everywhere.
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I have a problem with Gov. Abbot. Why the age 21 years or older? At 18years of age on Election Day a person can legally vote in Texas. I believe it is the same for all states on Election Day. Why must we have Open Carry laws, Conceled Carry laws, or any permits for that matter. If a person is 18 years old or older then carry any firearm you desire. May the best person win.
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Drinking, drug use, mental illness.  None of these are limited to college campuses.  And, yes, none of these combined with firearm use is ever a good idea.  But I'll ask my question again, is there anything that has been substantiated as an actual reason not to allow it?  Not speculation but actual facts. We could speculate that a drunk college kid, who happens to have a concealed carry license, would use the gun on someone other than a criminal.  But then we could also speculate that an OSU student, who happened to have a concealed carry license, could have shot that idiot the other day BEFORE he was actually able to stab anyone (not taking anything away from the officer who responded).  
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Regardless in the end you still need to be willing to shoot another person

Just because you carry a gun doesn't mean you could pull the trigger
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It's very true.  Which is why I recommend training, which involves muscle memory, and has been proven to increase reaction time and efficiency.  In the end, pulling the trigger would still be an individual decision for sure, but I'd much rather be given the chance to pull the trigger instead of my only option being the one catching a bullet myself. 
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^ I agree 100%
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Originally posted by whineisfine whineisfine wrote:

I say yes. I understand your thinking, MElass, but there is drinking everywhere.


Yes, and why firearms should never be allowed in bars and restaurants. I would support metal detectors at bar entrances. I know, I know......I can repeat all the arguments against that, but weapons in drinking establishments just makes me cringe.
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Here's the thing, and I realize this is an old, tired argument but it really is true.  When you put into place tons of restrictions, you only restrict the good guys.  Bad guys with guns don't worry about restrictions, hence the bad guy part.  If someone wants to shoot you, they will find a way to shoot you.  They will walk into a bar, church, school, etc. with their gun.  They are never going to see a "gun free zone" sign and decide against shooting you.  

And as a side note, many of us who have a concealed carry license don't worry too much about those "gun free zone" posters either.  Not because we're defiant.  But rather because my gun is and will always be concealed.  The only time you would ever see it is if one of our lives were being threatened.  And in that case, you're going to thank me for not observing the "gun free zone" sign.
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