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    Posted: Nov 26 2012 at 9:38am

All students at John Jay High School and Anson Jones Middle School are required to carry identification cards embedded with a microchip. They are tracked by the dozens of electronic readers installed in the schools’ ceiling panels.

Northside has been testing a “radio frequency identification” tracking system for the two schools to increase attendance in order to secure more state funding, officials have said. The program, which kicked off at the beginning of this school year, eventually could be used at all of Northside’s 112 campuses, officials have said. The district is the fourth largest in Texas with more than 97,000 students. source

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I don't know about you but this seems dangerous on a number of levels. Is this something that could come to Monroe?

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It sounds more safe than dangerous to me.

This technology has been used in the business world for decades to account for the whereabouts of their employees and it is a critical feature in case of emergencies. Having the ability to know who is in or out of the building in case of fire, tornado, etc. is a potential life-saving advantage of such a system.

I don't know that it's any more of an intrusion into personal freedoms than taking active attendance. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Animal1993 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Nov 26 2012 at 11:50am
I completely agree that it would add to student safety, while inside a school building.  However, I also think there is the potential to actually endanger students, when off school property, if someone were to somehow figure out how to hack into the school system, and use the technology to stalk someone.  Of course, that is only if the ID is carried outside of school.  (Which most are.)
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I think the only thing that anyone could ever do is see whether or not the student has left the building or not. A passive RFID badge works within the confines of the system it is identified with; any other RFID reader outside of the closed-loop system would have no idea who the person is because the badge is not registered to their system. This is much different than an active GPS system that could be used for "stalking."

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Originally posted by Doc Doc wrote:

I think the only thing that anyone could ever do is see whether or not the student has left the building or not. A passive RFID badge works within the confines of the system it is identified with; any other RFID reader outside of the closed-loop system would have no idea who the person is because the badge is not registered to their system. This is much different than an active GPS system that could be used for "stalking."

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Well, in that case, as long as it is just a card of some sort, I would have no problem with my kids carrying it at Monroe. 
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We had a very similar system where I went to school.  It tracked us everywhere we went.  It actually would even physically take us back to where we were supposed to be if we wandered off. 

We called our system: Nuns


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Originally posted by vegasmayor vegasmayor wrote:

We had a very similar system where I went to school.  It tracked us everywhere we went.  It actually would even physically take us back to where we were supposed to be if we wandered off. 

We called our system: Nuns


 
 
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Yikes, allow me to be anti-government here but I am in no way a fan of letting the government or anyone really track my whereabouts. And yes, I understand the capabilities using the internet or a smartphone to do that but I don't know... I don't like this at all.

Sacrificing a bit too much in the name of "safety" for me


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Originally posted by Matt_Steele Matt_Steele wrote:

Yikes, allow me to be anti-government here but I am in no way a fan of letting the government or anyone really track my whereabouts. And yes, I understand the capabilities using the internet or a smartphone to do that but I don't know... I don't like this at all.

Sacrificing a bit too much in the name of "safety" for me


 
I didn't read anything about "safety". It was all about revenue and attendance.
 
On another level, imagine the quality potential of sport teams when choosing from 97,000 students!Clap


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Originally posted by Matt_Steele Matt_Steele wrote:

Yikes, allow me to be anti-government here but I am in no way a fan of letting the government or anyone really track my whereabouts. And yes, I understand the capabilities using the internet or a smartphone to do that but I don't know... I don't like this at all.

Sacrificing a bit too much in the name of "safety" for me



I was hoping someone would point out the obvious. Also there are predators and hackers out there. Put the two together and we have a real problem with people tracking our children who are not in the position of legitimate authority.



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That really doesn't make any sense. In this instance; there is no danger-inducing opportunity to be had by hackers or predators if they were to gain access to the RFID database. The only real opportunity that they would have is to replicate and/or deactivate the system - which, in the case of system deactivation, would cause a moderate inconvenience at best (as long as these RFID cards are not being used to unlock doors)
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So you don't mind if someone unauthorized can track the children in real time? 

Scares me. 
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RFID is a nightmare security wise.


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One step closer to a one world government with a uniform currency!
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Originally posted by MoneyBags MoneyBags wrote:

One step closer to a one world government with a uniform currency!


This post makes the most sense in this thread
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I fell like this is the beginning of M.A.R.C.. For those of you that aren't aware of this, it's a microchip created by the government to keep track of people. It includes bank information, medical records, family history, etc. Pretty much everything they need to know. The medical information chip is already out there for people to have implanted. Eventually, they will make it mandatory, and if you don't have it, then you have no way to pay bills, purchase necessities, go to the doctor. I'm sure it's going to be some years before it gets that far, but regardless, America is not a "free" country anymore. We haven't been for a while.

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The problem with this whole thing is that it's just phase one. What would the Phase 2 and Phase 3 plans be. You can bet a lot more intrusive.
 
And VegasMayor is dead on with the NUNS comment.  
 
PS: does the system also track the teachers and superintendent???
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